AC leaks - England or Russia

[Rosa Giovanno]

www.thesixthaxis.com/2014/02/25/next-assassins-creed-not-set-in-japan-possibly-russia-or-london/

England or Russia? Sounds interesting. Which would you rather see in the next game?

[Nicola Rangé]

Can I just say, I've ALWAYS wanted an AC game set in feudal Japan... I'm so disappointed at the title, LMAO

[Rosa Giovanno]

lol. aw, poor Nico. What is it about Japan that would be cool for an AC game? I never really learned enough about their culture for it to interest me, beyond of course the samurais.

I personally hope it's Russia. I love England (want to live there actually, after college), but I feel like we kind of just did that with AC3, since it was the revolution between the US (English colonies) and England itself, and the industrial stuff doesn't really spark with me. It'd have to be Elizabethan or much older.

And Russia, well, everything dangerous lives in Russia. (And Australia, but we'll focus on Russia). My teacher told us once about something in Syberia, called the "Whispering Winds", which is where it is actually so cold outside, that when you speak, the moisture on your breath turns to ice in the air and falls to the ground, creating a tinkling sound. It's uninhabitable by humans during that time. And I love the way their language sounds.

[Nicola Rangé]

I mostly enjoy the "politics" of it. The way it's splintered into hundreds of provinces all determined for gaining power... It would be PERFECT for an AC storyline. It would throw questions of honor around since it was considered dishonorable for assassinations to be carried out. That, and the fact that samurais were fucking BADASSES. The weapons were some of the strongest on the earth, the armor allowed for them to be as agile as possible while still providing protection, and they were trained for years and years to be made into the perfect warrior. Can you think of a more epic position to put an assassin in??

But as for the whole Russia versus England thing, I would vote for Russia, mostly because England is just so boring... I think Russia would be much more interesting

[Rosa Giovanno]

I didn't know they had such strong weapons. I always thought it was just bamboo and katanas (my least favorite sword). It would be interesting I guess to see what other weapons Ubisoft could come up with. What other stuff did they have?

It might be cool if they did a greek thing down the line, it'd be interesting to see Sparta and Athens and the other city-states, plus their tactics like the phalanx (sp?). But I doubt it, because other videogames have already kind of taken that field.

And England is pretty freaking cool. It's one of the most haunted countries on earth, and can you imagine stuff like witch hunts/trials, jousting, the castles, Robin Hood might have been a cool character for the series.
But the industrial stuff is boring, I grant you that.

[Nicola Rangé]

Katanas were VERY powerful at the time. Just one katana has over 17,000 (I think? Don't quote me on that, LOL) layers of steel. I think Japan was one of the first civilizations to smelt steel, but I'm not sure about that either...

And Greece would be cool, but I don't think that would fit in with the AC timeline, LOL.

And yeah, England can be cool, but I'm more interested in the Medieval England. They had some of the strongest archers on the planet. And jousting is pretty cool too!!

[Rosa Giovanno]

Wow. You must really know your history, that's cool.
And since AC4 (if you still haven't played it yet), they don't have to go in order through history anymore, they can jump and skip around. Edward Kenway is the grandfather of Connor and the father of Haythem. Have you played it yet? I didn't think I'd like it at first, and even after I started it, it took me a while to really like the game, since I wasn't initially a fan of the whole sailing thing. It ended up being a really good game with an awesome plot. Plus it has underwater areas.

[Nicola Rangé]

Yes, I am a HUGE history geek XD and this is fun btw I love rambling about history.

And I mean it doesn't fit in with the timeline because the Greeks were mostly pre-A.D., long before the Assassin's Creed started. But I haven't played AC4, so XD so would it really fit...?

[Rosa Giovanno]

Ah, no. You're right, you're right. The Assassin's were formed after the Templars during the First Crusades. Shame, though, the Greeks would have been cool as far as the First Civ is concerned - that would have been cool for artifacts and what not.

And yes, this is fun I love history too, but with school I haven't really had the chance to learn as much as I'd like (no tv = no History Channel). So I'll just I've to pick your brain, lol.

The nice thing they've introduced in AC4 is that they no longer need a living person to go into an animus, DNA from the individual will suffice. Which also means that now any person can access the memories, not just the descendants. Abstergo is allegedly going under the facade of a gaming company to cover up its research, and does produce some of the memories into video games.

Another thing that would be cool about Russia, though, if they went far enough back into it, is Princess Olga. She was some relative of Vladimir or Yaroslav and Ivan the Terrible. She was literally crazy. She burned down a town by taking homing pigeons (a great AC concept) and setting them or the letters they carried on fire. The pigeons of course flew home, and landed on the thatch roofs of the houses.

Vladimir (forgot his last name) is responsible to Eastern Orthodoxy in Russia. He made some deal with Basil and had all of his people baptized in the Volga River (maybe cool Templar thing).

[Nicola Rangé]

I freakin' love the history channeeeeeel XD and that's interesting about Abstergo, but I'm not really sure I like that... But whatever, I guess they had to do that just to keep the story going.

And I can't say I know much about Russia, but that's really interesting, and would definitely make for some great AC plot!

[Catone[Inactive]]

I've got AC4 and I must admit that although I was already biased(Pirates!), I was sorta on shaky ground with it. I mean, number 3 was a little disappointing to me. They relied too heavily on Haytham being a Templar to really give Connor any development. Connor needs a little more rounding of his character, but that doesn't make me love him any less. Still, I was a little scared for Black Flag.

I shouldn't have been. The entire game blew me out of the water(pun intended). Not only did they focus on an outsider joining the brotherhood, the sheer amount of interesting activities, characters, and things they packed into it has definitely made it the best in the series.

But, now I am also wary for this one. I have the feeling that taking that dynamic an open world and trying to force it back onto land may backfire a little bit. The Russian theme I could totally get into though, and considering that they already have some guy from the Russian Revolution in the comics it would be interesting to see what they plan on doing.

I mean, they literally have already taken care of the Apple and the Observatory, so what First Civ tech will be revealed?

[Rosa Giovanno]

Yeah, I wish they would have at least granted us a valid character in the real life aspect of the game. This first person to third person stuff had me fairly annoyed, but I liked hacking stuff, that was fun.

And Cable, I'm ready to get off the boat. I liked the sailing aspect of the game, but land is still my favorite, with maybe side-missions at sea. The activities and characters were what finally won me over. And I haven't read the comics, are they any good?

The first civ tech is pretty open-ended. At the end of the first game, Altaïr opened that map with all of the locations of other pieces. So they can really come up with whatever they like. What happened to the Apple, though? Desmond had it at the end of AC3, didn't he? And then did Abstergo take it, or did his friends recover it?

[Nicola Rangé]

Don't get me wrong, AC4 seemed cool and all, but I just feel like it strayed too far from what AC games actually ARE. And as for AC3, you're completely right about Connor's character. I felt like it was too difficult to actually connect to him, and he is probably the most unmemorable character I've ever played in a video game...

[Catone[Inactive]]

The first person was a curious aspect. I remember it from Revelations and I still don't know why it's still present in the series at all.

Valid point with the Apple. I don't remember if the hacked files said what happened to it....

Tell you the truth, the ship was a beautiful mechanism in my eyes. It was a blessing in disguise as now, you could mostly explore the entire world with it right off the bat, but doing it without upgrading your ship would've been disastrous. I rarely encountered those pesky "animus walls" that kept you at of areas because you needed to progress the story like the rest of the series. Plus, naval combat was pretty fun to me, if not repetitive when boarding.

At the end of the day though, AC is my favorite series by far. I would probably love whatever they produce. The comics I have not read, but it did go into Daniel Cross' backstory before he was even mentioned in the games. The amount of Canon maintained over every facet of the series is astounding.

[Rosa Giovanno]

I'm in the middle of both of your points on AC4. I liked the outsider aspect, but I understand Nicola's point. The Creed part of the game wasn't what I expected.

And Connor, I liked. Unfortunately he did support the Native American stereotype of "noble savage", which was a bit disappointing. But in his defense, he came on as a new character after three amazing games of Ezio, which created quite a big shadow for him to be lost in. And his personality just didn't fill the shoes.

This whole Juno/Minerva thing will be something to look forward to as well. Do either of you fully understand it? Because it loses me at times.

(and Nico, I've responded in the carnival thread if you feel like rping)